This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. no one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever you know. Let me- let me jump just, uh, a quote in front of me. "I just needed to kill because of that." But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Now, that right there, slap some quotations around that. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? ", Yeah, so here's the interesting thing. 35.3M . And they go, "Why?" He was t- very aggressive. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. In those days if you're a convicted male felon, you are, you know, strung up by- You're not allowed to hang till you die. He would deny things, he would obscure, he would dance around things. Here's what he did. Wow. And maybe forces hydrogen in the tank. And, um, why is it so important do you think to understand the why behind such an evil act? That's correct. So you see it's just in that one experiment that 65 percent of people are willing to go all the way. The Bad Show. You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. He would dance around things. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter-, Killed her. When you press one of the switches, all the way down, the learner gets a shock. Like, you walked into the room, what- what do you find? Each answer just begs another why. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. There's a pause and my father just says-. Well talk about Fritz Haber. I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex boyfriend doesn't know that- that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Like, maybe he thinks Othello is sleeping with his wife, we're not sure. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. What does he say? You know, he takes over leadership in this institution in Berlin and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. His health is failing in 1934. I- I know it was more than [inaudible 00:59:44]. And, like, it kind of, like, hurt his feelings. An mlsconsumeraccess.org number 3030. Is an absolute order. Meanwhile later that night, the other side of town. I mean, yes, I did lie about that. In graphic detail. Hmm. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. Well, I can use that same process to make explosives because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb.". That allows an individual to act inhumanely? It's about 1880. We'll be right back. You literally get a drip, drip, drip, of ammonia. God. And is found by her son. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas. Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). "Oh, you tell me sir, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". Big questions are investigated . You've touched me. He would say over and over again. I'm about to help this quest for knowledge, I really want to do a good job.". He goes straight to the German high command, and he pitches this idea. James Shapiro, Professor of English at Columbia University. But I needed to kill her because of that. It gets bogged down. There's trench warfare. Yeah, well (laughing). We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. Whether the learner likes it or not, we must-, What's interesting is that how all of these struggles, all of them-, Play out the same way. By the ocean of breath twice, I remember I carried your oxygen. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" God, I feel like we haven't, you and I sat together and said our names in quite some time. With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. You know, I'm really proud of Job. He is a solder, he works for a general, the general's name is Othello. Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. It was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. Visit our website. He could have never imagined that. More energy than seemed, like, possible to make. Take one. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. So, you're saying they're shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? Everybody was desperate for sources, new sources of nitrogen. Is that- is that nitrogen is trivalent. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. Thank you Ben. So then Hey wait, I'm almost done guys, give me two more minutes, two more minutes. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. We begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. Up until that point, Gary refused to say that "From the minute I picked these women up I wanted to kill them." And then he starts this period of roaming. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. And once again, another nitrogen compound. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. "Definitely yes.". And so, uh, when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. 'cause this room's echo-ey and you know there's nothing like a closet full of clothes to, like, help balance that out. Hmm. And they would circle yes or no. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. I left him, went home. I'm good. And that's all the difference in the world. And-. You need to admit this. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. And even when they do say, "Yes." And he did too. It was- it was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." So- so first of all, could you just like, uh, when did he live and what did he look like and that kind of stuff? It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. Is an absolute order. 1933 comes. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. It's absolutely essential that you continue. And then, it was several hours later in the middle of the night that I got the call. But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. [2] Although once again we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. He knew about it. He's bald. Even past when they were screaming in pain. His calculations showed that it couldn't be done. Our thanks to Ben Walker, whose podcast he has a podcast and it's a good one. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. Is that like a green cloud? Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. We want what Elizabethans got at the scaffold, which was a confession. Like, you know, "Who are you?". And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. Warning. Dan Charles, Sam Keen, Latif Nasser, Fred Koffman and Fritz Stern. But there's a fellow. With AI, blockchain, and quantum technology, IBM is developing smart, scalable technologies that help businesses work better together. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. And they're both secularized Jews. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to basically issue an order that says there shall be no Jews in the civil service. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. Terms and conditions apply. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. Because actually, he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. Well, I'd have to discontinue the experimenter then. I just needed to kill because of that. Even when they go along with the experiment-. What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies; many of them after they were murdered. Two more minutes. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. And it's moving at about one meter per second. So, right around 1900. Well, that's because you- be-because Molly's been in the chair. He eventually goes to England-. We lived together for a couple months, he was very aggressive, he started calling me a whore, and told me he didn't love me anymore, so I broke up with him. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty-, Saying, "You know the process that I used to make food? Saying, "You know, the process that I used to make food? And my father wasn't buying it. But you can't throw that air onto a plant. And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. You know, "I just want to kill her. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why?