He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because "that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids.". Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. So I ended up supporting him. Scheduled to start classes in January 1965, Oswalds arrival was leaked just days before Christmas, forcing the University to acknowledge her enrollment in a terse news release. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. For years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. She didn't want to listen to anyone. I have to admit that when I heard that he used to play with me all the time, that was a nice feeling. She wanted to know Lee; she wants Lee to be a saint. Raised by her stepfather, Rachel Oswald Porter didnt know who her birth father was as a young child. A: Not until recently. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. Perhaps my opinion is wrong, but at least I do not want to live with her and listen to scandals every day. Lee Harvey Oswald's youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed president Kennedy. Suddenly a widow at age 22, with two young children to raise, Marina Oswald seemed overwhelmed by the media maelstrom enveloping her. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. So she became a sort of tourist attraction. (1963 - 2013) Photos: 50. I had already written a we got to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. WebLee Harvey Oswalds youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed President Kennedy, and was shot to death himself. Cookie Policy Porter married Oswald during his temporary defection to the Soviet Union and emigrated to the United States with him. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. She said she came to know Oswald while the two worked on a plot to kill Fidel Castro during one summer when she was 19. She was one of the most well-known women in the country but at the same time had become what one newspaper called the forgotten woman., What is America going to do about it? wrote editors of The Deseret News. I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids.Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment.A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. And she recalls her childhood as a "pretty happy" time, thanks in large part to her stepfather. The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. WebMarina met Lee Harvey Oswald (a former U.S. Marine who had defected to the Soviet Union) at a dance on March 17, 1961. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs -- as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that -- even about yesterday. I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. Now, the word father does mean Lee to me, But dad is Dad. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally -- like stating publicly that Lee did it. The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia. A: I would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. Oswald with ELI Director Catford on graduation day in February 1965. My boyfriend would sneak down to Priscilla's basement and read all her old files. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying. And I said, "Yes?" Because some people have called me and said, "I knew your father and he really loved you." My first serious boyfriend -that's what he was fascinated about. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. Her coldness struck me. We lived in poor housing or were taken in by others. WebAbout one year after Lee Harvey Oswald returned from the Soviet Union with his new Soviet wife and young daughter, he became famous when he was arrested on suspicion of killing President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. One would think they would be more anxious to try to, clear his name. Are they going to take after some ancestor we don't even know? Nope. In one test (conducted by CBS News), 13 people were able to duplicate his shots. Four of those people had never fired the Mannlicher Carbiner Those who insist that the church should not become embroiled are really pressing for an irrelevant church, he preached. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. Oswald's girlfriend offers variation on JFK assassination, Opinion: Put the coke back in coke for the sake of the American dream, A mysterious rave aims to revive the underground electronic scene in Baton Rouge, Why are young adults watching 'Bluey?' But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. I also had an interview for Rachel Oswald, but haven't located it. That didn't set well with me. The reason she is here is that we can teach her more in a shorter period of time, said Catford, the Institutes director. Mostly I feel bad that Lee was never able to tell his story. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it -- unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. She had been in the United States all of 17 months. I tell her, "Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets." Dr. Ernest T. Campbell, welcomed the idea as the one thing we might do to partially redeem the tragedy.. The couple wed Mrs. If someone has it, I would also like to read it again. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the overall clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women - Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 - ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. WebFrom left are, Oswald's wife, Marina, holding their daughter June Lee, 22 months; Robert Oswald, brother; and his mother Marguerite Oswald, holding her five-week-old I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. Accused Assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Rachel felt differently. Mom accused me one day of being ashamed of who I was. In 1980 she was convinced by conspiracy buffs that the one in Harveys grave was a Russian spy and not Oswald. I was really supportive. Within weeks, donations topped $12,000 and by early 1964 would grow to $70,000 the equivalent of nearly $600,000 today. A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. When the Session convened within a week of Oswalds arrival, half its members upset and embarrassed about being left in the dark were angry to the point of wanting to reprimand the church leadership. As she told the Warren Commission during her three days of combative testimony, "It is no crime to sell the pictures. I found this on page 182 of the forum, well worth a read. Q: I'm sure there must have been a lot of unusual incidents as you were growing up. Your email address will not be published. He tracked me down. Whom do you really think of as dad? Im just like everybody else, and Ive had more than enough.. During college, Rachel supported herself at the Texas Chili Parlor in Austin. Marina and Lee Oswald had two So I sat across the hall in a time-out room. Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer's new book? I didn't break down and cry or anything. The Michigan Daily made no mention of her presence (We just dont think shes news, the editor said). He tracked me down. I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father -- or a good provider. Q: To what extent have you followed the various conspiracy theories?A: It's only in recent years that I've started to get involved in all that, mostly as part of trying to get the records released. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for -- I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! I think she is out to make money than if she has to say he is guilty. Click "Submit" to let the Reveille's student journalists know. She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past year, she reports being content. The next memory I actually have is in second grade. At the time of the assassination, she and other First Presbyterian members were starting their second year with Ernest Campbell as their minister. Dixie DeaApril 28, 2004 in JFK Assassination Debate. Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. In Dallas, Porter gave birth to a second daughter, Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald. Six weeks When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. It was in Minsk that, in 1959, she met an American, Lee Harvey Oswald, who had defected to the USSR at the height of the Cold War, when tensions between the U.S. and the Soviets were running high. The churchs executive committee agreed. It was hilarious. Her combative attitude never wavered. There were some who were quick and hot to say that what we did was unpatriotic. Why are 40+ guests suddenly reading this very old thread, as well as a smaller but still significant number reading an old thread on Marina? ", John Pic, Lees half-brother, took a particularly cynical view toward his mother's behavior after the assassination. WebHome in her husband's native Texas, life became difficult again for Marina Oswald. Not so with Oswald. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don't agree about what happened.Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role?A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. I don't know if I could've done it and kept my sanity: two small children, don't speak the language, dirt poor, everybody in the country pointing their finger at you -hating you in some cases. Obviously, if I'd wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. Oh great!". But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. Q: How are things between you and your mom these days? He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then - I think it was $25,000. She kept herself together for us.Q: Was any of this an issue in your marriage?A: No. But she was not too happy that I had found her and at that moment in time was not interested in. The only mention of If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. It was just kind of eerie. As for what his exact role in the assassination was - well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. There were hysterics. [3] They married six weeks later and had a But both reneged after learning that the funeral would be outside by the grave rather than in a chapel, fearing the potential threat of snipers. Advertising Notice We visited the set of "JFK" when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." [quote name='John Geraghty' date='May 13 2006, 02:49 PM' post='62308'], Dixie, thanx for the interview. A few months later the young family moved back to the United States. It was one of many strange, discordant reactions that led many to question her sanity in the days and years aheadand to find the likely source of many of her sons problems. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chilli Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. Oswald has three children, two daughters, and one son. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. She is convinced that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. Oswald worked sporadically at different jobs, such as a sheet-metal worker and a photoprint trainee. Standing outside the North University Building (located roughly near todays Biological Sciences Building), Oswald agreed to be photographed. Church leaders had suggested to Oswald that she use an assumed name when coming to Ann Arbor, but she declined. It sounds as if most people are not aware you're Lee Oswald's daughter.A: Yes and no. Flash forward to June 1962, and Oswald was back in the States, this time with a Soviet wife and newborn daughter. "Having seen Marguerite Oswald's son murdered before my eyes, I dreaded intruding upon his mother's grief," Huffaker wrote. Well, I was satisfied with my dad, so I've never felt this big need to connect with Lee or do the daughter-father thing.Q: One can't help but notice that you address him as "Lee. She was never recognized. Still, the help for Oswald paled compared to the support for the widows and children of President Kennedy and Officer Tippit. Yet the CIA never questioned him. Marina Oswald spent hours before the Warren Commission in early 1964. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. My first serious boyfriend -- that's what he was fascinated about. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. Oswald was considered an average student at the English Language Institute. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs - as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. Oswald is now well along in an eight weeks course at the English Language Institute and is living in one of the homes of the congregation. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. Together, they had a son Mark Porter. The other thing is, you just worry genealogically. What investigation? * J Edgar Hoover himself solved the crime within 2 hours or so of the murder * The FBIs sole purpose then was to prove J Edgar Lee Harvey Oswald also was accused of killing Dallas police officer J.D. But dad is Dad. She is a woman of average height. As UPI reporter Preston McGraw noted, "One at a time, quickly, the two women bent down and kissed the corpse.". June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. A: It has put certain strain on it. And I'll tell you why: It could come up at any minute.Q: Did you see the "Seinfeld" episode in which they're at the ball park, and they get spat upon, and --A: The "second spitter," right. Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. This is a digitized version of an article from The Timess print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. She got all caught up, because she wants so badly to have this identification with her father. She described Michiganders as like the weather crisp and cool. She made no mention of her young daughters, and said she could not provide any interviews because she had a pending book contract. He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because "that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids.". As a single woman in the Soviet Union, Marina Oswald had studied at a technical pharmacy school in Leningrad. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. Since I hadn't gotten a response, I toyed with the idea that I might have to go public. A: Yes and no. It was her meetings with the Warren Commission, as well interviews with the FBI, that prevented Oswald from coming to Ann Arbor in 1964. Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment, A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. Do I need to be more compassionate' about it? It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? When money ran low, she sold a letter or document connected to Oswald or an article of his clothing. He beat my mother. Oswald's girlfriend offers variation on JFK assassination. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. By the early 60s it was enrolling hundreds of students a year for intensive courses in vocabulary, composition, and grammar. She later moved to Minsk to live with her uncle Ilya Prusakov, a colonel in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs, and to study pharmacy. If I want to sell a picture to a magazine or a newspaper and protect myself financially, I am going to continue to do that.". For all I know it's still tapped. It made no mention of his brothers infamous place in history. It would seem a perfect fit for Oswald. Your Privacy Rights The minister, the Rev. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash," June says simply. She is convinced that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. thanks for posting that interview I had not read it before. She no longer had reason to doubt her grandiose visions, her place in history. The Michigan Daily published a special edition with news of President Kennedy's assassination. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. A good person. And I'll tell you why: It could come up at any minute. I couldnt remember anything after he was shot, Baker said. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying. Somehow those boxes came down and she was reading, and I guess she felt it was time to tell us. Bentley Historical Library, Vice President for Development records. They lived their lives as best as possible. Under the shadow of the stigma. That Lee Harvey Oswald killed Officer Tippit and President Kennedy! Mar We visited the set of "J.F.K." But she did. Reporters came over and she would tell us, "Shhhh, go in the other room.". He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then -- I think it was $25,000. Reporters came over and she would tell us, "shhhh, go in the other room". She was born after her family moved to Dallas from Russia. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. She looks just like her father, with her mother's eyes. In her early years, grocery shopping with her mother, Marina, and sister, Rachel, took place amid stares and finger-pointing; hushed conversations ignited around them like flash fires as they walked the supermarket aisles. His oldest daughter, June, I believe attended the Univ. of Texas and graduated first in her class or very high in her class. Shes made some TV app While married to Lee Harvey Oswald, she gave birth to her firstborn daughter called June Lee on 15th In 1963, after the assassination of President Kennedy, Oswald was arrested. She said she understood English better than she was able to speak the language. A few men sent letters to the ELI office in hopes of striking up a romantic relationship with Oswald. Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. We always used my stepfather's name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. This struck a chord with someone in the congregation who believed the church could help Lee Harvey Oswalds widow through education, assimilation and the English Language Institute. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms. He encouraged First Presbyterian members to maintain a vital balance between personal religion and constructive involvement in the ongoing life of the world.. "I do not think that she is a very sound thinking woman, and I think that part of the guilt is hers," she told the Warren Commission. Judith Baker, author of "Me and Lee - How I came to know, love, and lose Lee Harvey Oswald," presents an article at a symposium on Sat. Records do not show who conceived the idea to invite Oswald to study at U-M, only that the person was a member of First Presbyterian who also taught at the English Language Institute. And she said, "June Oswald?" Q: How did you feel about being singled out?A: I remember what I did during that time-out was, I plotted how I could run for class president and win! She however remarried two years after Oswalds murder. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. Porter met Lee Harvey Oswald at a dance in March 1961 in Russia. And then, they tell a story about how after that I stood up in front of the whole class and said, "My father shot the President." He challenged his church the oldest in Ann Arbor to be politically and socially relevant.. Additionally, Porter told the commission she believed her husband was guilty of shooting President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. Because some people have called me and said, "I knew your father and he really loved you." _________________________________________. She kept herself together for us. I would have liked for him to have his day in court.Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza?A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. But the unmovable Marguerite remained unapologetic. Marina Oswald Porter was the Soviet-American widow of Lee Harvey Oswald. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. She also said she watched Oswalds shooting by Jack Ruby two days later. So I said, O.K, this is it. We regard Mrs. Oswald as a typical institute student, said ELI Director John C. Catford when her enrollment was announced. And she said, "June Oswald?" But I still have problems in that area, because I date a lot. We are very close -- except when these kinds of things come up. She his always felt really bogged down by it. A: Yes, I'm also very excited about that. I had a conversation like that with her in about 88. The first of its kind in the country, the ELI was established to provide instruction and support for international students who speak English as a second language. She was 23, neatly dressed in a skirt, sweater and winter coat, and looking like a graduate student with books tucked under her arm. I would have liked for him to have his day in court. I have to remind Rachel that this is the man who beat our mother, who didn't provide for his children. And you know, it's not Lee's fault he got killed by Jack Ruby. They first met last April in Washington. Later, she married Kenneth Jess Porter in 1965. ", My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer. I'm sure he will respond. Well, we're all waiting, and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera, and she says: "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. Oswald. My husband couldn't have cared less. Tho I have been told that both daughters have been burned. Cookie Settings, The Gunman and His Mother: Lee Harvey Oswald, Marguerite Oswald, and The Making of an Assassin, Dried Lake Reveals New Statue on Easter Island. Im sure Mrs. Oswald could conquer English in any school in America. Oswalds wife Marina, two daughters, brother Robert and mother Marguerite were the only mourners. I think her physical health and mental health have been damaged in recent years over all of the pressures put on her.Q: After all this time?A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. By the end of the year, however, she was ready to travel from Texas to become a student. The other thing is, you just worry genealogically: Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. As Oswald was in her final weeks of campus, her name once again made news around the country. I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth. My boyfriend would sneak down to Priscilla's basement and read all her old files. I didn't break down and cry or anything. You will be able to leave a comment after signing in, political justice, conspiracy/truth, music, law, Bible prophecy, quote name='John Geraghty' date='May 13 2006, 02:49 PM' post='62308']. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash"' June says simply. However, she was not implicated in the assassination but testified against Oswald during the Warren Commission hearings. 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