LittleWhiteMouse, July 2, 2020 in General Game Discussion. If Florida was a battleship from any other nation, there would be very little worth noting here. In terms of pricing, Legoland Florida is slightly cheaper than Legoland California. This is the first meeting of the season between the two programs both coming off of big, emotional wins. However, the larger map sizes makes this a lot more problematic. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. As nice as the raw penetration values are on Florida, she doesn't have a lot to spare once you aim at battleships in excess of 15km out. Using the usual tricks of aiming for softer sections of the hull can help, especially given Florida's reasonably tight dispersion to ensure good groupings. This helps somewhat, but again, angling is very effective against Florida's guns because she doesn't overmatch a whole lot of armour. This can be especially problematic if you've boosted her range and there are silly things like a bored Musashi or Champagne itching for targets. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). Long ranged with a starting reach of 19.9km which can be extended to as much as 27.7km between upgrades and consumables. In their past 10 matchups, the Panthers are 6-4-0 to earn 80.0% of the possible points. Despite all that, what I really like about her is that her guns (while not powerful as you'd expect, which is mentioned) are fairly accurate at all but extreme range. I also like her secondaries, as they have decent enough accuracy and reach out to 6.6 with aft+flag. The single 5" guns tend to land their hits a lot vs the dual 5" guns (though that is not be saying much considering. She doesn't get access to Aiming Systems Modification 1 to reduce her main battery gun dispersion. heh), and overall they tend to start fires quite a bit. For me she simply, "clicks". Results will vary. North Florida are 4-1 in their last 5 games against the spread; North Florida are 5-12 in their road games against the spread; The totals have gone OVER in 3 of North Florida' last 5 games; The totals have gone OVER in 5 of North Florida' 11 last games at home She has excellent AA firepower. 356mm guns lack overmatching ability against targets with 25mm+ extremities. As of December 2020, Floridas (preliminary) unemployment rate was at 6.1% while Californias was 9%. The Jaguars have not played a game with moneyline odds of -320 or shorter. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. Skill Floor: Simple / Casual / CHALLENGING / DifficultSkill Ceiling: Low / Moderate / HIGH / Difficult. 1. Carriers must anticipate that she will always have Defensive AA Fire ready and it's best to bait its use by ducking in and out of her 5.8km bubble and then waiting it out, even if she's not your primary target. Florida is effectively a no-fly zone for tier VI carriers because of this consumable and raw AA power combination which is a pretty impressive boast. Add on a catapult fighter and Florida duplicates this for tier VIII carriers too, at least until she comes under sustained HE attack. I won't be purchasing her. Based on this contests moneyline, Southern has an implied win probability of 76.2%. Enjoy your break, you earn it every time you do one of these. There should be no surprises for anyone here. Everyone has their preferences but it's not bad. The bot was without camouflage. Can only snipe and cannot take hits at all. Most, if not all,also need their alpha nerfed slightly so they aren't deleting cruisers quite the same way they are now (enough that basically instead of say 2 citadels and 4 overpens to destroy a cruiser you'd need 2-3 of those overpens to be solid hits). These reviews have significant amounts of data and stats, plenty to draw your own conclusions. You know it. I should preface this by saying that I love the American standard-type battleships. Arizona will set you back the equivalent of 6,900 doubloons. Overall, the ships are very comparable in terms of their protection and durability. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. All they had to do was drop the reload down to sub 30 seconds and I think more people would be interested in her. I just came to read another review by LWM, and donot have Florida, but I have been farming in Narai since other farming OPs were taken down. Queens are 9-8 in their road games against the spread. in other words, you are more likely to find claifornians in claifornia than floridians in florida Uses the improved battlecruiser dispersion instead of that of American battleships. She doesn't have boosted HE shell damage the way Japanese and British battleships do, so she's kind of lackluster there. Hit Points: 58,300Min Bow & Deck Armour: 26mm extremities, upper hull and deck with some 31mm rear deck sections behind the superstructure.Maximum Citadel Protection: 35mm anti-torpedo bulge, 343mm belt and 44mm citadel wall.Torpedo Damage Reduction: 36%. If given the opportunity to fire nothing but AP, Florida does really well. Frankly, this is only going to happen if your opponents are idiots. You have to remain flexible with her ammunition choices. Keep the Expert Loader skill in mind. It's very handy for this ship if you're going to build a dedicated Florida captain. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. I think the best thing to examine is how worth it is the ship in not just randoms and ranked, but coop and ops. Simply put, it's the only thing which makes this ship viable as a tier VII vessel and even then it barely passes muster. All things told, it's not bad for helping keep shells out (especially when angling). The totals have gone OVER in 3 of Queens' last 5 games. Mouse. I wish this could have meant more than it does. UK HE rockets and SAP ones, maybe HE vs AP but more unique could be to bypass bombs for a second smaller TB group since they focused on torp carrying planes that could also carry bombs, and skip bombing would be another option. Fair enough. California VS Florida Beaches the BIGGEST Differences EXPLAINED California's increased rate of fire, higher shell damage and sigma are all nice but the difference is so minor as to be largely unnoticeable. Thank you a lot! Having a working knowledge of which ships you can still punish when they angle helps immeasurably, but Florida is very often forced to rely on either aiming for over-penetrations through superstructures or resorting to her HE rounds. It turns out that even substantially better accuracy often nets only marginally more hitsoften indistinguishable on an engagement to engagement basis.. This means the moment you touch their rudder, they dump their speed faster than a tweaked-out college student having their dorm inspected. Other than Shimakaze (which needs it only really on it's stock torps) the old IJN torp line needs the range it's torps are spotted back down to the same levels as every other nation not using DWT's, or at least cut in half or reduced to .1 over. Louisiana: $2,546. Florida played solid defense throughout the night, holding Georgia to 33.3 percent from the field and 18.2 percent from 3-point range (4-of-22) while recording 8 steals and 6 blocked shots. The final thing to keep in mind is that because of her long range, every time she pulls the trigger, she rings the dinner bell. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. Florida Scoring. You can find a Pow Wow somewhere close to you! ATHENS Georgia basketball battled back but could not overcome its 12-point second half deficit to Florida. While California has the slight edge in health, it pays to keep in mind that Arizona has a large hit point pool for a tier VI battleship while California is on the low side of average for tier VII. I think in this regard the ship is somewhat worth it. Had she been strong, I think I could have just sat aside and let people discover that for themselves. If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. VERDICT: Not as nimble as you might expect. Good enough, I suppose, but definitely not one of her strengths. In World of Warships, Florida represents the design XVI-C if the North Carolina-class would have ever been built this way. She also presents the same battlecruiser characteristics as Champagne and Slava with an improved dispersion but lighter armor than other battleships at her tier. Florida wins this battle hands down. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I mean review on this one. This picture is the best thing I could think of to illustrate CA's introduction to You have a lot to learn from Ms. That 35mm anti-torpedo bulge covers a huge section of California's side. California epitomizes the state that chose harsh conformity instead. Florida's secondaries are too short ranged to be worth specializing into. They also lack the accuracy buff that makes Massachusetts and Georgia such units. These twin factors are enough to discourage anyone from spending skills or upgrade slots on them, to say nothing of Florida's durability issues (which I will [edited] about at length below).. Taylor Jones. She's just not fun and you can get a similar (and better!) Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay fo You get tier VIII American battleship AA firepower at tier VII. California has much reduced firing arcs (102 broadside vs 113), California has more health (58,300hp vs 57,200hp), Arizona has better anti-torpedo protection. It's akin to (but not a copy of) the UFO-style acceleration found on British cruisers and destroyers. Florida's artificial fragility instead comes from three sources. The most influential of these is her citadel placement and geometry. Any battleship with her citadel sitting high over the waterline and abutting against the ship's exterior has a big ol' weakspot that's pretty easy to exploit. That, in of itself, isn't enough to damn a ship. For example, Soviet battleships all share this weak point, but many (if not most) of them are considered super-tanky. Therein lies Florida's second weakness: she lacks any form of extended armour to assist with shattering HE shells and ricocheting incoming AP rounds. While her amidships deck is a respectable 37mm, her butt, snoot and upper hull are all highly vulnerable. 25mm and 26mm armour are easily over-matched by the oh-so commonplace 380mm+ AP shells found at this tier. This armour similarly doesn't hold up against HE spam from cruisers and some destroyers. Thus Florida is much more limited when it comes to tanking incoming rounds. She can bounce 356mm armed battleships throwing AP in her face for days but angle improperly or test your luck against larger caliber guns and she goes down in a hurry. You need speed to reach thatposition in time, but if you do, you can sink MO in two salvos, allowing you to not rely on torps by other ships to take it down. You can forget keeping up with the pace of battle. Yes, Florida is much cheaper than California because the cost of living is just 1% higher than the national average. Time to re-use a graphic because battleship skill optimization has stagnated! This picture is the best thing I could think ofto illustrate CA's introduction to WoWs. The final difference is cost. I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. No. Bet now! Picking her up and farming some damage is pretty easy. Top Speed: 20.5 knotsTurning Radius: 640mRudder Shift Time: 14.7 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 3.7/s. As we've already covered, she doesn't really have that much better of a chance of doing so than Arizona. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.86km / 12.1kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 10.08km/9.07kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 12.01kmMaximum Firing Range: Between 18.62km and 25.92km, Flordia's concealment values are pretty darned good. She doesn't quite get into that magical sub-12km surface detection range which is quite impressive for a battleship, but at least she gets close. Given her preferred engagement distance, it's pretty easy for this ship to drop off from detection range in typical encounters -- especially given her long reload. If she had a bit more grunt in her engines, controlling the engagement through use of her stealth would be a lot more feasible, but her 27 knot top speed just isn't enough to kite away from all of the battleships she faces, to say nothing of cruisers and destroyers.. You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. Florida uses an American battleship version of her, Finally in the last slot, you have your choice between a, Finally, in slot four, fire damage mitigation is still your best option so. The number of murders surged by nearly 30%, from 16,669 in 2019 to 21,570 in 2020, the largest year-over-year increase on record. The net effect is that though California has a 20.5 knot top speed, she's usually flirting with much less -- as little as 15.3 knots at 4/4 engine settings. But seeing how she was being released reminded me of why I write these reviews in the first place: To protect other players from making bad purchases. She doesn't have a nigh-impervious citadel like Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. While tier VI carriers have to respect your AA firepower they can still strike you. Florida, on the other hand, would be much more enjoyable if Such wasted potential. All you really need to know are the battleship basics: use the correct ammo, beware of flashing your sides, try not to get left behind. In their past 10 While California does have some minor improvements over Arizona, they are (in my opinion) inconsequential. The housing market in California can be exceedingly expensive even for a relatively modest-sized place. with florida you a lot of retired folk from around the country. I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this graphic. This speaks a lot to how badly the skill system needs to be reworked given how optimized skill choices have become. Just saw ichase's vid also. Ez fix". The Wildcats score just 1.4 fewer points per game (67.4) than the Gators give up (68.8). Florida's consumables are a little weird. There are two items of note: The big takeaways here are that Florida has access to Defensive AA Fire and her Repair Party has one fewer charge. Thx mouse. And another premium ship to skip, even Zoup has a different opinion. The tragic and horrific June 24 collapse of the Surfside Champlain Towers notwithstanding, the purplish-red sunshine state is dynamic, diverse, Horrible rudder shift time of 15.4 seconds. Still, she's not far removed from Arizona -- like, the differences are barely perceptible. But generally, they should be returned to their previous roles that CL were better DD hunters, while CA stood a better chance vs BB's as opposed to 152 m death rain that melts everything. As a result, Florida is growing; and California is watching an out-migration of the wealthy, the middle class and major employers. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. To be fair, I might actually like it based on the gun performance, but I have no real use for a squishy BB. This means, gunnery wise, you're paying more money for a worse experience. Her secondary armament is divided into two gun types. The first is the twin 127mm/38 we're used to seeing on every American battleship. But these are supplemented by four single 127mm/38 turrets akin to what you might find on an American destroyer like Benson or Sims. This effectively gives her an eight-gun secondary broadside -- two fewer than you'll see on higher tiered American battleships like North Carolina, the SoDaks, the Iowa-sisters, etc, but it's right on par with California's battery. However, Florida manages to have the equivalent broadside to a ten-gun secondary battery like the higher tiered ships because most American twin 127mm/38 guns have an artificially lowered rate of fire and the singles have a boosted one. Check out this nonsense! follow. She's boasting not only tier VIII AA firepower at tier VII but good tier VIII firepower at tier VII. The first element is symptomatic of American battleships as a whole, especially the new line of American battleships that Florida heralds. At 33.5 seconds per volley, Florida's reload isn't as bad as some of the others in the new tech-tree, but let's not mince words: It sucks to wait that long between trigger pulls. I can stomach this if the results for waiting are particularly amusing, however Florida's gunnery is an exercise in frustration for me because of my second gripe: Florida's shell hits are not satisfying. Florida's shells, both AP and HE, don't hit especially hard. Their damage values are lower than you might expect for a 356mm weapon. In fact, Florida's damage output on her AP and HE shells is most closely matched by those off the sixteen-gun Lyon. Lyon has only a 30 second reload, I remind you, 3.5 seconds faster than Florida with a four-gun advantage. Compare: Her individual hits just aren't doing as much damage as other American battleships. While she still has better broadside weight than the ten-gun armed New York-class, she's well behind the other twelve-gun armed American standards despite having a better reload time than all of them. This deficit in shell damage (combined with her slower reload) means that in terms of raw damage potential, Florida falls way behind, ending up in the bottom half of the DPM charts despite her large number of guns. She can contribute. Sadly, Florida's HE are lacking. Their modest damage per-shell and slow reload might not be such a bad handicap if their fire chance was better, but her fire chance per shell is horrible. The 22% value she's shackled with is downright painful for such a slow rate of fire. Getting one permanent fire to burn is a feat, never mind doubling up. Her HE performance is so bad that I would happily recommend sticking with AP spam if it weren't for the aforementioned issue with angled and higher-tiered targets. It's stupid-important to be patient with your shots. Look for opportune targets where you can maximize her AP efficiency. You don't want to have to start spamming HE. Similarly, you don't want to force encounters where this is your sole option. Florida doesn't have the armour or hit points to facilitate trades against same-tier (or even tier VI) opponents. Blapping a full broadside of HE into an enterprising lolibote is hilarious, don't get me wrong -- her improved accuracy means that she easily can land four to six shells (or more!) Unlike Arizona which finds herself occasionally enjoying the 36km x 36km claustrophobic maps of lower tiers, California more often than not sees the 42m x 42km and 48km x 48km maps of higher tiers. NikoPower (of CorgiFleet fame). From those conversations, For me, Ship Comrade allowed me to greatly increase the quality of my reviews. This long format, like you're seeing here with Florida, was facilitated entirely by having my content written for Ship Comrade. Critter8 encouraged CCs like myself and, I am here and there every where and no where. The 0.8s improved reload time and harder hitting AP shells are okay, but you can't feel the 0.1 sigma difference. The North Carolina Tar Heels (18-11, 10-8 ACC) and Florida State Seminoles (9-20, 7-11) tangle Monday in Tallahassee. Much of Floridas coastline has Caribbean-like water in terms of warmth and undisturbed turquoise waters. What's more, California does not offer anything novel in the way of game play short of having better AA firepower. LOCATION: Donald L. Tucker Center in Tallahassee, Florida. Tier VII battleship. Like American Lite Beer, the CV rework has a lot to answer for. In Florida, life is good. I love playing Arizona but i won't pay to have it at tier 7. Even then, it's often not enough. California uses American battleship dispersion with 1.9 sigma versus Florida's battlecruiser dispersion with 1.7 sigma. Florida feels appreciably more accurate than most other American battleships, though her lower sigma value will make her feel only slightly better than ships like California or Arizona. And depending on nation, out right changes to how the ship play. WebCalifornia is more of a dry heat while Florida is more humid It's generally sunny more so in california than in florida. follow. HE pen on cruisers needs to be standardized beyond say national things like Germany having 1/4. Landing citadel hits against enemy battleships tends to fall off at ranges over 14km or so, but you should still be able to land penetrating hits through most belts you'll encounter. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 157.5dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 4.0km): 269.5dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 318.5dps at 70% accuracy. Compared to the 380mm, 406mm and 410mm shells being thrown about by some of her tier mates, their individual shell performance is middling at best. California vs. Florida: A tale of two Americas From a distance, Florida and California look similar: beaches and natural disasters, theme parks full of tourists, and If you're struggling to see a difference in as clinical and sterile a trial as this, you have no hope of feeling the difference through normal game play. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. The perks they gave her to compensate, namely good AA, nice range, good concealment and more accurate guns, don't cut the mustard for me. California gets no tools to seriously mitigate this. I want to like the Florida but she may very well be out of my skill range which happens. So there you go! Florida has a better secondary battery than California, equivalent to most of the other American battleships (but obviously excluding Massachusetts & company cuz theirs are souped up). She is to Arizona what Alabama is to Massachusetts & North Carolina-- entirely forgettable and an unfortunate waste of money for worse game play. I for one wouldn't have spent a nickel on your game without her. You can get a taste for this already by playing Arizona in bottom tiered matches and struggling to keep up with the pace of battle. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. One of these is California, the other Arizona. However, she has very poor gun fire angles, horrible agility and no appreciable gains in defense all while being up-tiered to tier VII. With a base 900m advantage over Arizona, this is supposed to facilitate not only engaging the enemy but escaping from difficult situations. Vulnerable, high-water citadel with as little as 285mm worth of armour. However, California's an important release and, more pressingly, I don't feel she's a good ship. Hard pass, ladies and gentlemen. COVID-19 Cases and Deaths in California vs Florida in Spring 2021 and Cumulative Through April 2021. I really don't like her alternative palette. It's a dull, elephantine grey in unflattering patterns. Despite constant suggestions to give her improved accuracy and/or range on her secondaries, Wargaming wouldn't budge on keeping them standardized. Build for fire-resistance first, then double back for your other skills. Bet now! However you're paying for the improvements with very crappy gun fire angles. The last piece of her squishy puzzle is her effective health pool. Florida's hit point pool is small for a tier VII battleship. Heck, it would be on the low end for a tier VI battleship. This isn't enough to damn her in of itself -- she's not so low that she's on Viribus Unitis levels of parody. But a smaller hit point pool means that she heals less penetrating damage with her Repair Party. While this has no impact on fire and flooding damage (as their damage amount scales with the starting hit points of the ship), 10,000 damage worth of penetrations hurts Florida more than other tier VII battleships. But there's more. Florida comes with one fewer charges of her Repair Party, so this deficit is felt even more.. After an impressive week that saw the Tigers go 3-1-1, Auburn begins a new week by welcoming in Florida A&M to Plainsman Park for a The accuracy plots in these reviews is awesome. As for the ship herself, WG pitched her at someone who wants a moderately fast (not quite 30kt, but not 20 either) US BB with lots of gun barrels at Tier 7. WebFlorida and California are remarkably similar for their warm climates, beaches, tourist destinations, immigrant populations, and more, but both states could not be more I fear that these buffs will blindside people to what is nothing more than an already existing tier VI premium with a tier VII price tag. However this gap isn't quite as pronounced as the difference in speed would suggest as Arizona has higher Krupp, a coefficient WG uses to directly modify penetration values. With Arizona existing, Wargaming should have either retired the Pearl Harbor monument or dredged up something from their box o' gimmicks for California to compensate. 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