Ringo: I have a xenogender! Most Xenogender users use neopronouns that correlate with their gender, such as kit/kitself/pup/pupself/bun/bunself/sweet/sweetself/fae/faeself/ Xenogenders are totally valid and help neurodivergent people understand what they identify as! Doing so further establishes hierarchies of heteronormativity that justify the oppression of queerness. I don't think stuff equivalent to being goth should give people those same protections. Not because xenogenders are themselves genders, but because anyone who adopts a xenogender must already be nonbinary by definition. Yeah but Im talking about if ur other king is a cat, your xenogender would be a catgender for example as you feel fluffy. Cass, a user of xe/xem/xyrs pronouns said, I was struggling a lot trying to find pronouns that felt right for me that werent inherently gendered like they/them. (transphobic meme), So I have to ask this. That's why it's called Xenogender, because Xeno describes alien. "I don't get why I would associate my mind with me body and the organs I have that not everybody does; I feel like my sense of self is better represented by [external thing] than femininity or masculinity" seems like a reasonable statement to make. Some qualify as genders and some dont. Being otherkin means you feel like a mythical creature like a angel. @Axie_ArtlTwitter: @iiChessYTDiscord: https://discord.gg/3h6KwPV Thank you. Then how does utilising xenogenders improve lives for the people who wish to utilise them? Xenogenders require some tiny effort from others, but it does require something from others which exists outside of normal lexicons. Gender in this regard is a mating strategy. Im sure not everyone is aware of such distinctions. I would probably describe my gender as simply "me" if couldn't describe it as under any of those terms. Riley: Sweet! Out of being respectful I'll refer to a person as they want to be addressed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Are they harmful? This is identifying as a food, or using food as a metaphor as your gender. It's usually pretty easy to tell if someone is serious about it or trolling. Its not valid in lgtb but pop off its valid on its own. So having concepts such as cloud gender don't really make any sense, but man/woman do make sense, as well as non-binary which is a rejection of both of these groups. I have a problem with this because one cannot just transition into a cat or a dog, or PAINT. You calling someone elses mating strategy invalid is part of your mating strategy. That doesnt exclude genders that fall under Xenogender, Aesthetigender, etc. Theyre doing more harm than the person who uses those pronouns by bashing them., When it comes down to it, neopronouns are just a way to express oneself in the truest form. My siblings and my dad have autism and they said it isn't true. A gender identity that shatters all the other modalities of being: these xenogenders thus identify with an animal, a plant or an object , but also with even more abstract elements such as sensations, colors, numbers. I love that you care enough to do research for your child. A "gender" that should not been taken seriously. I promise. It was especially shocking that binary transgender people were taking part in this bullying. bruh WYM by hating this isnt nature geographical. The College Board corporate corruption or helpful nonprofit? It is said to be made for neurodivergent people because 'they may have a different way of understanding gender' or 'gender is too difficult for them to understand'. Everyone defines their own xenogender differently! Also the way some of these people express there so called "gender" (catgender or paintgender) is bad and one cannot feel gender dysphoria by feeling lazy or comfy or warm because those are the qualities the person already has. They are both umbrella terms. Occasionally you might meet someone who breaks the normal binary, and uses they/them pronouns, but there is more than one way to identify as non-binary. This is untrue. You're complaining about someone being a cat, but that has no bearing on their pronouns or gender identity. Hey, that could be Cottoncandygender! Taylor, I was doing research to understand what my 10 year old is going through when I came across your article. being a "palatable transgender" with respectable presentation is not gonna liberate us. Not because xenogenders are themselves genders, but because anyone who adopts a xenogender must already be nonbinary by definition. I also hate how some people say they are valid, they are not real genders. Just a thought maybeyou should adda poll. Just like other words LGBTQ+ folks use, its my personal assertion that people who identified with xenogenders existed before the words themselves - Genderfluid people existed before the term was used, lesbians existed before the term was used, etc. You can post now and register later. If someone says they are a Twix bar, then who am I to say differently? Some neopronouns that are seen as more socially acceptable include. Thank you to everyone for your in-depth explanations. We should not be against each other and its really important trans people give each other support.. please just say you're transphobic and go. Some people may want to answer your question without debating the topic. Unfortunately most folk don't have the same attitude of "you crack on pal" as you've stated here. Typically oneself chooses things they like to more accuratly decribe themselves better then they think binary labels could do. Is there a specific reason you think one is legitimate and the other is terrible? Feeling pretty smug, she point to herself and says, My gender is Bob Sagats pants. Transgender folk roll their eyes. ), At the same time, if something is"valid", it seems to lead to respecting your identity, accepting it as real, not thinking xenogenders are "sarcastic" and not bullying you, and generally if you're saying what xenogenders are valid, it may be a marker what you're likely not ablist (even though you technically don't have to be neurodivergent for identifying as xenogender, xenogenders still usually are strongly linked to neurodivergent experience) and not transphobic andtherefore safe to interact with. My goal is not to offend anyone who identifies under a Xenogender label, Just want to note that its probablybetter yo adjust thewording here. Read also USA: 56% of adults under 30 think that a person's gender can differ from the one assigned at birth. Some who have mental variations see these as an influence on-- or an inseparable part of-- their gender identity. A Xenogender is a gender that is made for peoples interests/struggles. I think honestly that people carving out their own identity is fine if that's really what they want to do, and if you really think xenogenders existing is harming general perception of trans people, I think you might be a bit too invested in the respectability politics of having "good optics" so the general population sees us as "legitimate" and "valid". Upload or insert images from URL. Some people dont identify with any gender. some use it for describing their gender and How they feel. A user going by the name Moth posted a video stating, yeah I use neopronouns. That is to say, their body identifies them in a different way than other (external) people identify them+their body. Neopronouns can be complicated to execute, and you might mess up, but its much better to learn from your mistakes, than to intentionally misgender someone because its too hard., Cass continued, You cannot pick and choose which of us are worthy of support and validation. Theyre doing more harm than the person who uses those pronouns by bashing them., continued, You cannot pick and choose which of us are worthy of support and validation. Todos los derechos reservados. If youre trans, not everyone has the same experiences as you. Telling people who use neopronouns they arent valid because you think its not normal is doing the same thing to them that was once done to you. Saying you are cat gender because you feel "warm and fuzzy" is terrible. We don't invest ourselves in the business of other people's specific sexual activity, so we don't look at those demographically like we do with the basic orientations (hetero-, homo-, bi-, a-). Saying your gender is a cat is harmful to genderfluid, NB and trans people (also me). Of those who do, most will be fleeting - like as a part of a freshman psychology course or responding to a Reddit post. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think that this is a great article, and some amazing points were made. It is most commonly used by neurodivergentpeople because they have more intense interests than others. But I don't see any utility or reason for xenogenders other than to be a contrarian or seeking attention. Friendly reminder that under current ToS, we don't allow invalidation of anyone's identity, be they standard or esoteric. This means that on AVEN y Not OP, nor trans but it's about the feeling of gender dysphoria and general discomfort about your assigned gender. They are not valid at all. They are just a bunch of attention-seekers that make the LGBTQ+ community look bad. Like bro, you can identify as a frog Lots of people; lots of differences. There are a lot of mating strategies. if you dont believe its valid, youre being queerphobic and ableist. no. not at all. this is coming from a ftm trans person. before anyone comes after me, let me just say, im not sorry if i offend anybody. every xen Its hard enough to get old folks to use "they/them", words that they use literally every day of their lives. Pride March: How did the rainbow flag evolve? People who identify with neopronouns do it for themselves, and just because they dont use common pronouns doesnt mean they arent still people. From what I understand, Xenogenders are hyperspecific genders that describe someone's gender in a way that is outside of human understanding. A user going by the name Moth posted a video stating, yeah I use neopronouns. If you're not very educated on transgender/nonbinary topics in general, it may be even harder to understand Some examples include: xe/xem/xyr, ze/hir/hirs, and ey/em/eir. It can be complicated, but xenogenders are often described as feeling like objects, sensations, songs, feelings, concepts, etc. Some even started mocking neopronouns by putting things such as didnt/ask, or shut/up in their bios on the app. WebThey are not valid. I'm collecting examples of experiences that might count as xenogender from history. Nothing. Im curious how you could classify xenogender as anything but nonbinary. We don't have to respect that - not because it's a less valid gender identity, but because it's less worthy of respect. Webyes, it is. That is just disgusting and paints people who use xenogenders as racist monsters. We can apply Godwin's Razor here and use the extreme example, someone who identifies as nazi-gender. Her body treats her internal self like a cat or an attack helicopter or whatever. Neopronouns arent what makes the trans community look like a joke, infighting between us is what makes us look like a joke. Ethereum is transexual because it is also accepted widely. Its valid to use your chosen genders pronouns. Whatever the mode of expression of the xenogender, the idea is to get rid of all material determination to move towards a representation that frees from the bodily shackles . Test My Belief Reddit! Does the buddy have a relationship with the mind? Also, I'm curious exactly what genders like Cloudgender and Treegender mean, as that is where I'm most lost on the topic. It also includes genders that were given definitions in or after 2000, as long as there was no strong implied definition and/or it was used to describe something different than does now. Some of it isn't pleasant from both the cis-normative and LGBT darker corners of communities. The other genders are lesser known coins that are not used as widely. Non-binary people are people who dont feel comfortable identifying as either of the binary genders, so therefore use pronouns such as they/them, or neopronouns. That means so much to me. Mspec is an umbrella term for sexualities that mean attraction to more than 1 gender, for Thank you. But validating this type of behavior and forcing others to accept this skewed view of reality is harmful. Defining yourself by unique association, without going through a material and gendered projection , this is what this new categorization would allow, as journalist Alice Pfeiffer explained in a dedicated article . Most people including most transgender people are either male or female. That's something different. Webi don't think xenogenders are valid. Do you consider Disney World to be the "happiest place on Earth? if you believe in appeals to authority and experience or whatever im a tme (transmisogyny exempt) transsexual person whos been out for 8 years. A poll asking people whether xenogenders are valid yes or no is NOT a good idea. A Spanish translation is especially wanted, but any other language is also welcomed. What's a xenogender? So in a sense, you get to decide what gender you are, but society also gets a say since multiple people have to also accept the existence of your gender before it becomes "real". The "attack helicopter" one joke edgelord thing is meant to mock and degrade. Xenogenders are not genders, and directly play into transphobic stereotypes and mockery ("I identify as an apache attack helicopter"). I don't like cryptocurrency, but I think it is a good analogy in this case. Possum.Lover, could you explain a bit more about Xenogenders? as for treegender it could mean how they identify could be rooted into tree and flora or maybe the metaphorical definition of the tree is why someone is connected to it. In the meantime, who does it hurt? #queer #lgbtq #xenogenders #xenogender". 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